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Vaz 2103. Retro and tuning. Ukraine.
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chazman



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

that certainly is a beautiful car! great work on it!!!
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nemez



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: Reply with quote

a little refresh..
the non-lada 65A generator (Daewoo, GM motor)

the hand-made carrier



this device differs from stock one - it has the built-in voltage regulator =)

the tachometer replacement..

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=488sWbbhmkg

perhaps you should just have swapped the engine for one from fiat. Twisted Evil

btw, this is only up to around 5k rpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DnOWwQykTU
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977
the video from previous page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xteuKTkO498&feature=player_embedded#
at the present moment using current config the engine rotates approximately 9.8K, 2nd gear about 120 kmph
and this is not the limit..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote

i know, i've seen it, but you're making an engine that won't last long and you still haven't reached horsepower output of bog standard fiat 2 litre engine that will last for 200.000 kms easy
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nemez



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote

as an example the fiat 2.0 V16 croma's stock engine provides 100 hp via 5200 rpm
1.8 carb vaz engine, 82*84 with wide-phased cam can provide more.. and all the power of this engine is at the high band - about 7-8K rpm
it's about 110-120 hp with compression ratio 12.53:1
it's a fully atmospheric engine
at the present monent the resource of my motor is

42.5K kms
the engine is a "healthy" one it has the compression of 13 bar in each cylinder..
and i think it is fully possible to run 150-200k kms
sometimes it shoud be necessary to refresh the piston rings (at 50 k) and to use the soft rings

the fiat motors has such a characteristics that the power peak is at 4-5 k rpm.. they are just like a diesel motors.. they don't rotate well and like a vaz motor, they require some tuning.. The price for the fiat engine tuning and accessories are extremely high..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: Reply with quote

look, don't get me wrong, i have lada s 2103 and 2104 as well as fiat 124 sport, 131, 132 and several others, and i have great respect for what you're doing there, but i've been there and done that and in the end i've scrapped the lada engine and installed one from fiat 132 1800.
with combination of stock parts from various fiat twincam models i've been able to achieve 130bhp at the wheels, measured on he rolling road dyno. later i swapped it for stock 2 litre but i still prefer old 1756cc.
claimed BHP is often very different from real BHP. have you done a dyno test ever? raising power output of an engine by 50% is a big claim. knowing what manufaturers need to do just to get 15% increase makes me wonder...
laws of physics are merciless. more revs means more wear on the engine components. more power on lower revs means longer lasting engine and that's it.
fiat engine being diesel like? think again! you obviously base your oppinion on some old worn out croma with 500k kms on the clock. have you ever driven an old school carbureted italian machine? if there ever was a rev happy engine than it's a fiat twincam. unlike lada engine with it's meter long chain and overcomplicated rockers on top, fiat engines are much simpler with less moving parts and much better made. also, you're talking abouot engine that had won WRC 10 times so far, so think again.
local availability of a certain engine is a whole different ballgame. i know it's hard to find fiat twincam in ukraine, but just take a look at your local fiat club website. there's usually argenta or 131 for sale there.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:10 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

You replace the rpm meter because of the generator??? (more amberes???)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Ladouras
no. I had two devices

and i've removed one of them.. ))
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

a little upgrade. Radio from Subaru Forester. Changer for 6 CD.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:54 am Post subject: Reply with quote

new rims (for warm seasons)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice. Those rims look like the ones that were available on Ladas in Canada back in the 80s...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

lalunette
thank you! A very interesting fact! But I have a question - this rim is for lada 2108 and it doesn't fit to classical hob )
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: Reply with quote

and why not?
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nemez



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977
the rims are melber 5,5 - ET26, PCD4x98

the stock rim for lada 2108:

it has ET26 and PCD4x98

this is the rim for 2103 (new):

this rim had ET29 and PCD4x98

So my rims, as you see, fits the lada 2188 by ET.
Anyway it is possible to install them to the classics, but the front rims require an auxilary 5 mm spacers and extended bolts


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