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djape1977



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:42 am Post subject: new old lada - 2103 from 1979 Reply with quote

got me a new daily runabout. lada 2103 from 1979, 1500cc, 105k kms on the clock, road legal and with lpg installed for 700e.











been driving around all day in it, doing my work, heavy city traffic, no problems whatsoever. amazing for a 32 years old car. quiet engine, no squeaks or rattles, front shocks are past their prime but i got a full boot of NOS parts along with the car including all 4 new shocks, new tailights, blinkers, headlights...
naturally, it will be getting some upgrades very soon, starting from 5 speed box and wider wheels.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, good looks man. How much did this beauty cost, if it's not a secret?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:22 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice!
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djape1977



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: Reply with quote

around 1.000$, 700e to be exact.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977 wrote:
around 1.000$, 700e to be exact.


that's a nice price for this condition Shocked congrats on the purchase!
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Ladouras



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats!!!!
Enjoy your new car!!!
Very few kms for it's age...!!!!

You said about Lpg system.....Could you tell me some infos about the every day use of a lpg-carburated car....I have read that this combination doesn't work properly....Except of this, what about valve drivers (I don't know if this is the correct name)???? They are lubricated using petrol but lpg doesn't do the same job....Your knowledge please!!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

about LPG...

i've sent a whole LPG system installing kit to a friend of mine in Ionina, Greece, his name is Pavlos, perhaps you know him, he's into fiats mostly. he installed it into his 1982 supermirafiori with AC and power steering so you can ask him about his experience with it. if you want i can give you his email so you can ask him. price is roughly 350e

i've been running several cars on LPG past 6 years and my experiences are generally good.

there is usually some power loss, like 10% roughly, and that's about it. starting on lpg, running all day, no problems whatsoever. at half the price of fuel, i say it's well worth the money.
problems with valve seats and guides? i've heard of it but haven't seen any myself so far. i have taken off the head from my twincam lada more than once, and it ran on LPG for roughly 120.000kms. valve guides were slightly damaged, but that's to be expected after 120k kms and there was no damage to valve seats.

on topic of some other stories i've heard about LPG over the years:

it's not prone to spontanious explosions. more likely that your car is going to explode if petrol tank catches on fire than LPG tank. there's 2 safety valves.

starting on cold mornings is not really an issue. i do it every winter on -20'C. there is a need to adjust idle speed for winter and for summer. there's some variations probably due to diferent density of the gas according to temperature. it's adjusted with a screw on evaporator, a 5 seconds job.


how it looks in the car:

LPG evaporator



60 liter LPG tank



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djape1977



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

predvestnik wrote:
djape1977 wrote:
around 1.000$, 700e to be exact.


that's a nice price for this condition Shocked congrats on the purchase!


there's plenty of these in my part of the world, prices vary but between 700$-1200$ gets you a decent one, and for around 2000$ you get immaculate specimen.

you could import one into US, it's a classic car so there should be no problems about lack of airbags, emmisions and such *censored*. shipping from Serbia to east coast works out at around 1500$
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Leth 2103



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:58 am Post subject: Reply with quote

It's beautiful! Nice to see more 2103's in here. I have a 2103 1975 myself

http://ladausa.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1927&highlight=

Isn't it hard to handle with that litle steering wheel? I think mine is quite heavy even with the original wheel...
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977 wrote:
about LPG...

i've sent a whole LPG system installing kit to a friend of mine in Ioanina, Greece, his name is............ ......me variations probably due to diferent density of the gas according to temperature. it's adjusted with a screw on evaporator, a 5 seconds job.



I know that you are the best person to answer my questions!!!!
Could you send me your friend's email by pm????
Thanx !!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Leth 2103 wrote:
It's beautiful! Nice to see more 2103's in here. I have a 2103 1975 myself

http://ladausa.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1927&highlight=

Isn't it hard to handle with that litle steering wheel? I think mine is quite heavy even with the original wheel...



i've seen your 2103, it seems to be in much better condition than mine. however, i don't like the white gauges.

steering? well, i'm a big guy, 192cm tall so i have a problem with knee space with original steering wheel. this also means that heavy steering is really not an issue. however, i did swap all the original balljoints today for a set of new ones, made by LOCKHEED. i will also swap all the tie rod ends and central tie rod for some quality items as soon as i get hold of them. this makes a world of diference and makes steering much lighter. any high quality ones will do, LUCAS, TRW, FIAT RICAMBI ORIGINALI...
while you're at it, check if the idler arm (rotating part that central tie rod is attached on the right hand side) is one with teflon bushing or with ball bearing inside. models with ball bearing are also lighter on the steering wheel.

and while you're fiddling with front suspension, you must swap old brake pads for new ones, softer the compound the better. i use LUCAS pads for years and braking is much stronger and squeel free. on my twincam 2104 they used to last around 18k kms per set with some VERY entusiastic driving.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Ladouras wrote:
djape1977 wrote:
about LPG...

i've sent a whole LPG system installing kit to a friend of mine in Ioanina, Greece, his name is............ ......me variations probably due to diferent density of the gas according to temperature. it's adjusted with a screw on evaporator, a 5 seconds job.



I know that you are the best person to answer my questions!!!!
Could you send me your friend's email by pm????
Thanx !!!


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Leth 2103



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977 wrote:
i've seen your 2103, it seems to be in much better condition than mine. however, i don't like the white gauges.


I have the original gauges?? But i admit that the light is poor on this picture...



Thanks for the service tips!
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:20 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Leth 2103 wrote:
Maybe it's a nordic thing. Found this on a 1980 from Norway....





sorry, i was not reading, just browsing tru pics
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: Reply with quote

djape1977 wrote:
Leth 2103 wrote:
Maybe it's a nordic thing. Found this on a 1980 from Norway....





sorry, i was not reading, just browsing tru pics


No problem Very Happy But you're right about the white gauges Rolling Eyes
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