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DeLorean_4



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Skoda revival! Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Skoda revival time has finally arrived! Hurray! Very Happy

I sent my Skoda specific questions to 135-GLier, and before starting any work, I'd just like to have your input on the general procedure employed to revive a car that's been sitting in a barn for a while. Here's my preliminary list, I would like to hear any feedback you may have:

- Empty and replace engine oil
- Replace oil filter
- Empty and replace coolant
- Empty and replace transmission fluid
- Replace air filter
- Have friend pour gasoline continuously in injectors as I start up the engine with the fuel tank (containing old gasoline) disconnected. (As a side note, I know the engine is in working order).
- Siphon, remove, and completely empty fuel tank.
- Clean it with fuel tank cleaning product.
- Re-install the tank
- Change fuel filter
- Attempt to start up the car to see if anything is wrong with the fuel pump.
- Test brakes (that still have old fluid). Determine if anything has seized, act according to 135-GLier's recommendations.
- When brake problems have been remedied, test clutch and transmission. Hope to God nothing's wrong.
- When problems have been remedied, empty and replace hydraulic and brake fluid.
- Start up fully-functioning car, take a spin around Old Montréal where tourists and people in classic cars hang out, take many pictures and videos, post on YouTube, drive back home into the sunset.

Patrick,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that sounds like a reasonable plan !!

Bonne chance !!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good! IIRC this car has GM throttle body injection-chances are
decent the injector is stuck and may need bumped free.If it is stuck,
sometimes they will free up once exposed to some fresh gas for a few
hrs without being bumped.I'd check the spark plugs too,and if they look
eroded(rounded end of center electrode)or carboned up put some new
ones in.Sometimes rear engine/front radiator cars can get an "airlock"
in the cooling system-feel for warmth in the front radiator hoses after
engine has been running a few min.and is starting to warm up.
With fieros,you have to jack the front und up in the air to "burp" the
coolant pipes and radiator.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another issue with cooling on these was that the thermostat (if original Skoda) had a tendancy to stick in the closed position. When we rallied one here in canada we always ran it without the thermostat for the summer rallies. As for the FI system not sure but I was told that it was VW as they bought 20% of Skoda in 1988 and the FI models came out in 1989.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so Porschev1812, warmth is a good thing (?) and as a precaution I guess I should jack the car up as with a Fiero?

The injection system I'm quite sure is GM. Thanks for the info guys!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure if the skoda will need the front end jacked in the air to "burp"
the cooling system-will see what the skoda guys say...
Heater may need "burped"as well.
very eager to see this little warsaw pact era czech running again:)
keep us informed on the progress!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to lift the front end. There is a tool looks like a bike pump. The system is pressurize and bled though small bleeder valve in the front bulk head area. I managed to get the system bled without the pump thing by opening the bleeders when the system was hot. The air would purge out. Just be careful because of the hot anti freeze.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

135GLi-er recommended I get it professionally done, and I shall.
All I need to do over the course of this week and the next is to get it in good enough a shape to drive from a friend's place to mine. I'll top off what's remaining of the anti-freeze and it shall be enough for my current needs.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd check the current oil before fitting the new filter.

With the last engine I revived after sitting for a few years the oil in it was as thick as treacle and needed several flushes to get right; if I'd put the new filter on before the flushes it would have need replaced by the third flush.

If the oil in it now looks ok, then ignore above.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'll help. I'm a mechanic by trade.

First thing - change ALL the fluids. We have to assume that as the car has been in storage for an unknown time, that the fluids are all bad.

As has been stated, drain and refill the cooling system.

Change the oil and filter. In fact, do this over a two-day period. That oil is gonna be black and real thick because it's old, and it'll pour like molasses. Drain the oil and let the old oil drip into a catch-basin overnight. You can then replace the filter and pour the new oil.

Don't forget the drain plug!

It wouldn't be a bad idea to add some oil additive when you pour the new oil, because all the old stuff will have washed off the cam lobes and lifters and such.

Bleed the brake fluid and use fresh DOT3 fluid. You will need a second person for this. Then, remove the brake pads and clean the rotors with some emery paper. Just remove the surface rust as best you can. Reassemble.

Change the air filter.

Remove the spark plugs one at a time and take a good look at their condition. Sooty black means that the engine has been running rich. A greenish tinge means that that particular plug's been burning coolant and you probably have a bad head gasket. Dirty brown is OK. Gap the plugs and reinstall, or better yet, replace with new plugs.

Remove the distributor cap and check the condition of the electrodes. Clean up the electrodes with some emery paper. Do the same with the rotor if the contact point is pitted.

Remove the old battery and discard it. Clean the batter terminals and install a fresh battery (at least one with a good charge).

Check the tires out thoroughly. How are you getting the car home - do you intend to drive it or are you getting it towed? If you are towing it, just make sure the tires are inflated. If you are driving it, remember that weathercracked tires are NOT your friends as they WILL burst when you heat them up under pressure (like, a few KMs after you've left the previous owner's place, probably on the highway at speed). Bring four spare rims and install some OK tires. Failing that, remove the wheels off the car and take them to a tire shop to have fresh rubber mounted.

It's getting hard to find a P185/80R13 tire. You'll likely get a price on P155/80R13s, but try to get a set of P175/70R13s if you can. They're closer to the original size. Remember, the spare is likely bad so budget for five tires, not four.

Replace the fuel filter if at all possible. You can get in-line filters for carbureted vehicles; not sure of the EFI 135GLi uses an in-tank pump and high-pressure fuel lines. You may need to get an original filter. Remember, there's likely lots of crud in the tank from sitting.

Check all lights and replace any burned out light bulbs.

Check all fuses. If there's a blown fuse, replace it. If it blows again, you've got a problem in that circuit. Check all electrical circuits for operation (wipers, lights, radio, etc).
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The transfer of ownership should be taking place this week
along with the towing to my house.

I hope all goes well.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Skoda comes tomorrow!
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeLorean_4 wrote:
The Skoda comes tomorrow!


Happy Happy Joy Joy !!
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually feeling very worried. I have yet to pay to have it registered to my name, I'll have to pretend to the CAA my clutch failed, I'll have to park the car behind my house where no one at home can see it and I'll have to break the news to my Dad. I'm tired of this childish sh*t.

Skodas have their (tiny) batteries under the rear bench and the one I had for my Lada is wayyy too big. I'll have to find a way of hooking it up to at least have my flashers and radio on when the tow truck arrives. That way, these subtle hints make it seem that the car was in recent working order. I was thinking of having the battery in my school bag, and the wires covered by my rain coat and laptop case.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeLorean_4 wrote:
I'll have to park the car behind my house where no one at home can see it and I'll have to break the news to my Dad. I'm tired of this childish sh*t.


Sorry to hear you are still having issues with your father about car ownership.

I went through that once with my Dad and had to remind him that I bought the car with my own money.

Parents can be weird sometimes.
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